Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Binrev

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Presumptious definition of a jargon-type word aimed at promoting a website. --Ianb 20:42, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You seem kind of full of yourself. Link taken out. --Me Now, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • Ha. This from the anon (ip removed) who created the article then deleted the vfd header with an edit summary that says "edited by Wikipedia staff". Good way of getting blocked from editing. Delete. RickK 21:35, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment. Google says 1940 pages contain the term and the hits are distributed over a wide number of sites and look pretty relevant. In most of them, the context is lists of or directories to hacker (or do I mean h4x0r?) sites. One is a reply to a query from someone who says "I am only 17 and am still under my parents' roof. My dad has our whole house networked. He has a frickin' sonicwall firewall and has blocked anything that doesn't use standard ports(like HTML 80 for example). This means no Mirc, kazaa, or CVS." To the reasonable reply "cant you just ask your dad to open some ports?" he says "He did it on PURPOSE. I tried that when he just used it as a security precaution and just had normal firewall prefs. I wanted to be able to Host halo games but nobody would ever be able to connect and my dad wouldn't open the damn port. Thinks someone's out to hack us. But anyways, he did it so I would 'focus on schoolwork.' So I can't do jack now." A helpful respondent says "Try posting a request here. ( these guys are pretty l33t and may be able to help..." I'm not l33t myself but maybe binrev actually does have some notability among those who are? Dpbsmith 22:18, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I just rewrote it, hopefully to make it more encyclopedic. Just in case I made it worse, be sure to view the original as well as my rewrite when deciding what to do. I really think the biggest question to resolve is where the site falls on the notable/vanity spectrum. Do we have a relevant article on hacking and hacker websites into which this could be merged? Dpbsmith 22:39, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Clarification: A user from my site posted this entry. I understand if you want to delete it or modify it, I just wanted to clarify that it was not *I*, the owner of the site, who posted it originally. Do with it as you will. -StankDawg
  • Clarification: The IP posted above is the IP of my public shell proxy. ANYONE could have made that post. Since early today my traffic has spiked and become unusable due to abuse of it thanks to you publicly reporting a private system so I have taken the ip out of this page to protect my servers. Please do not add it again. From What I am aware of the site is of notable interest and the person who posted the page (starting a new page instead of defacing something else I might add) had a honest interest in helping people understand something. He then edited the page to take out the link as you wanted. From everything I have seen the poster was just trying to do something out of goodwill and got mad after he received a abusive response from the wikipedia staff.
1) There is (almost) no such thing as "Wikipedia staff," other than a few brave souls who I believe are actually Bomis employees, who take care of the servers and so forth. Another way to say this is that both of you are already members of "Wikipedia staff." You or anyone else may list articles on Votes for Deletion, just as you may edit articles. If you create an account, you can vote in Votes for Deletion and your votes will be taken into account. (Final decision is made by "rough consensus," don't expect pluralities or formal counts or quorum calls or anything like that).
2) To avoid publicizing your IP address, create an account. All this does is to create a username for you. You don't need to give out any personal information, not so much as an email address. Your contributions, log entries in History files, and so forth, will then be listed under your username, and you will be referred to by that username in any discussions. If you don't have an account, the system uses your IP address in lieu of a username, and in discussing your articles we need to call you something and the IP address is what we use. Creating an account also makes it easier to contact you within Wikipedia.
3) Attempts to use Wikipedia to promote websites happens so often that Wikipedians are apt to get a little brusque about anything that looks that way. We tend to be a lot brusque at attempts to game the system by removing VfD notices.
4) By the way... Welcome to Wikipedia! Dpbsmith 01:35, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Anon, I don't really think anyone is being treated badly here. We're trying to determine if this article is notable enough to warrant an encyclopedia entry. No one's being flamed or persecuted. All of us here have an honest interest in helping people understand things, there's no other reason for us to be here. I'm just a little confused when I see people get upset over open collaboration. I think this issue is still open, we need to determine how notable this binrev site is. - Eisnel 02:45, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Obviously some ppl think it's important. Salasks 02:25, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Some people think a lot of things which have been deleted were important. That's not a criterion. RickK 19:16, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Around 2000 google hits, and they say they're published in 2600, but I am not of the opinion that these people deserve their own encyclopedia article at this time. Delete. To the anonymous user: if you're so worried about your IP address being publicized, you shouldn't have edited the page: all anonymous editors have their IP addresses recorded for all eternity in the edited articles' histories. --Ardonik 05:48, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity. Ambi 07:20, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)